UPPAbaby Mesa V2

Thread: "Just got mom-shamed for using a MaxiCosi (WHYY???)"

I don’t think they were mom-shaming, just more so pointing out that they see everyone having that seat. Everyone at my baby and mom yoga had the Uppababy Mesa seat and I felt like I had missed the memo lol.

Thread: "[ab] Uppababy aria vs Clek Liing?"

Definitely the Clek. It’s has better limits, making it a longer lasting seat that fits better in cars, especially smaller cars. The uppababy seats are generally not recommended by CPSTs, they are often outgrown early and are larger front to back so tend to take up more space in cars. The Aria especially has lower limits than the Mesa so you run the risk of baby outgrowing it even sooner (as early as 5-6 months). I’d recommend checking out the SEATS for Kids fb group if you’re looking for more info, they are really helpful.

Thread: "Car seat recommendations? "

We got the Graco 4ever 4in1 convertible car seat. It lasts 10 years and turns into a booster seat when needed. We used the Uppababy mesa too and my 8 month old looks a lot more comfortable in the Graco now. It doesn’t rotate, while they are convenient, I personally didn’t want one.

Thread: "Higher end infant car seats? [mb]"

A car seat is only as good as the install. Some car seats fit better in different vehicles. There’s a group on Facebook called seats for kids and they will give you reccomendations based on your vehicles and kids height/weight. As well as your height which will help you figure out if you can still use your passenger seat! For example if you have a compact car uppababy mesa is not considered a compact seat front to back.

Thread: "So torn on infant car seat - Uppababy or Chicco?"

I flipping hate my Mesa V2. I don’t know why, it’s just not great. Yes it’s nice that it works directly with the stroller, but meh I wouldn’t get it.

Thread: "Mesa V2 vs Nuna Pipa"

Hello. CPST here. Neither of these seats are recommended infant seats due to the install being difficult to achieve and them being large seats RF. Your vehicle still has quite a compact back seat and there needs to be space between the car seat and the vehicle seat (plus space for the passenger/driver to sit comfortably. That being said, I have not played with the mesa v2 yet so I do not know if they have fixed any of the issues it had. I know it is not any more compact than before. The previous mesa almost always required a noodle or rolled towel to achieve proper recline. It also had a tendency to float off the seat (the base would not touch the vehicle but would float above it at the edge of the seat). There are solutions to fix these two issues but for the cost of the seat there are much better options. For the pipa, 95% of those seats are installed incorrectly. They make it look like a super easy install but almost every single time it ends up being over reclined. You would think that's a good thing but it's not. Nuna actually has to write in their manual now that you likely need a rolled towel or pool noodle to make the recline work (and it goes at near the baby's head not near the back like usual). Once you make that adjustment it's almost always under reclined which is another issue especially for newborns. We do not want their chins to fall to their chests because it can block their airway. The infant seats we recommend the most often are the Graco snugride snuglock seats, the Chicco keyfit and the clek liing. I am not sure if Chicco makes an adaptor for uppababy. I don't think so. If you're looking for a higher end seat, the clek liing is an excellent seat. It's compact front to back and side to side and it has a lot of really awesome safety features. Clek's customer service can not be beat and the seats are made right here in Canada. It has a load leg which is a great safety feature and it has a base that is adjustable (recline) after install. It's the only seat on the market like that but it's a helpful time saver to adjust the recline once your baby grows. I won't talk about the other two because I don't think uppababy makes adaptors for them but they are both excellent infant seats as well. With all of that being said, travel systems (putting a car seat on a stroller) have really only one purpose. They are meant for popping the car seat on the stroller for a quick errand or to pick up something from the grocery store. They are not meant to be used in place of a stroller seat. Your child should not be in the stroller any longer than one hour (both in the car and elsewhere) for at least the first 3 months. It is not a safe sleep place. When in the car, you've adjusted the recline and know that your baby is safe at the proper recline. On a stroller or anywhere else it is not possible to check the recline to know whether or not it is safe. So it is not meant to be used for long periods of time. Some people will put their car seat on the stroller for walks or for going to the mall. They often loosen the harness because they're not in the car. This could lead to forgetting to strap them back in before getting back in the car or if the baby is not strapped in they are not safe, not even in the stroller. The baseline is that car seats are meant for cars and outside of the car there are many better ways to transport your child. Uppababy makes a bassinet as well as an infant insert for their stroller seat and both are great options that you can use from birth. You can pick up the bassinet on marketplace for super cheap because people don't use them beyond 6 months! There is no testing in Canada for car seats used on strollers (especially adaptors by other brands). We always say to pick a stroller that works for your lifestyle (because you will use it much longer than your car seat) and pick a car seat that fits your car. If you can find an adaptor to make the two work then great. If not then you can use the stroller with other attachments. In sorry for the overload of information, I wanted to make sure you had all the info to make your decision. If you would like the opinion of some other cpst's please feel free to join the seats for kids discussion community on Facebook. There are tons of us on there to make suggestions! I hope this helps ❤️

Thread: "Horrifying Experience With Uppababy support and Mesa v2 car seat"

This is one reason I never recommend Uppa Baby infant seats. This is a well known issue I’m so sorry you had such a bad experience with them

Thread: "Higher end infant car seats? [mb]"

We went with an Uppababy Mesa because we bought the Vista, and liked the ability to click it into our stroller. We JUST bought a convertible, and ended up going with a Graco Extend2Fit because we have a taller baby.

Thread: "How often does Uppababy Mesa V2 go on sale? [bc]"

IMO that’s a good sale. When I first saw that I wondered if they would be phasing it out in favour of the Max and the Aria.

Thread: "Best travel car seat?"

United destroyed my uppababy stroller and claimed it was “normal wear and tear” and did not replace it. Maybe car seats are different. But I wouldn’t ever risk it again b

Thread: "What infant car seat did you guys buy or will buy ?"

I have the uppababy and did the mesa v2. It’s is a little heavy/clunky but I imagine they all are and it’s really nice you don’t have to get an adapter. If I were going to buy one again I would get the same one, just works well

Thread: "Uppababy Mesa vs Chicco Keyfit 35 [CA]"

Have you had a chance to try them out in person? I was comparing between the same 2 car seats and in my mind I was favouring the Chicco Keyfit. But after going into a Snuggle Bugz and trying both on the Uppababy stroller, we ended up with the Mesa v2. For the following reasons: - The convenience of the compatibility (don’t forget the adapter costs money) and in the store the Chicco never felt like it attached to the adapter very well. - The sunshade on the Mesa was far better designed. The Chicco shade seemed to get stuck under the handle and stuck on the top of the car seat. - The only factor that favoured the Chicco for us was the material felt softer and the padding seemed well designed. But both were good. Although the crash rating might be better, all car seats need to pass a minimum safety test in Canada. I don’t think any brand new car seat you buy can be considered unsafe.

Thread: "Is there a big difference between Uppababy Mesa and Mesa v2 car seats?"

The original Mesa still conforms to safety standards (not recalled) and many people will use it for multiple babies. The V2 just has additional safety features and other features that go above and beyond the requirements. I have the original Mesa and would have no issue buying it again especially with the discount. It's already expensive for the amount of time you use it.

Thread: "How often does Uppababy Mesa V2 go on sale? [bc]"

I’m not sure on the sales but I have read that the Mesa is out grown fairly fast and is pretty bulky to install. If you haven’t yet I’d recco checking out the Seats for Kids discussion. Group on Facebook to make sure it’ll fit well for you.

Thread: "Is Uppababy Cruz & Mesa car seat worth it ?"

I wouldn’t pay the big bucks for an infant car seat, they are so short lived. I know people who like the Cruz. Personally, I’d spend the money on a jogging stroller, which will be a lot easier to push on walks, over grass, etc. but that’s personal preference.

Thread: "Best Infant Car Seat?"

I would recommend getting the same brand as your stroller. I have the uppababy and it was very convenient to be able to click in the bucket seat right into the stroller. You could also get converter attachments though.

Thread: "So torn on infant car seat - Uppababy or Chicco?"

I don’t have either seat but have sooo many friends that had that same experience with the uppababy seats and their kids just always looking like they didn’t have the best fit/uncomfortable that I’d never get one. It’s not just one person, so many people have said that was their experience! Seems super common. I feel like the adapter thing isn’t that big of a deal—you use the infant seat for such a small period of time in the grand scheme of things that I think it’d be more minor than you think!

Thread: "Horrifying Experience With Uppababy support and Mesa v2 car seat"

I’m sorry you had that experience. I also understand your frustration that you don’t feel you should have to use a rolled towel to keep your baby’s position in the seat. I haven’t worked much with this exact Mesa model, but I can say that - as annoying as it is - a properly used “crotch roll” as we call them can be absolutely magical in positioning an infant in a car seat. As the baby grows, it will stop being necessary. I’m not excusing the customer service experience you had. I’m only hoping to assure you that a crotch roll is a known, tried, and true method of preventing slouching in a car seat. “Back in the day” they were pretty much universally used for infants. Now they are less common as more car seats are more adjustable, but they really do work. The trick is to place the baby in the seat and put their butt as far back as possible so their back is nice and straight. Then look at the gap between their crotch and the buckle. You want to roll up a burp cloth, small hand towel, or something similar that is the same thickness as that gap. As baby grows, gradually decrease the diameter of your rolled cloth until no cloth is needed at all. I assume she already showed you how the roll goes in the seat; but if you want to post a photo I’m happy to help you troubleshoot.

Thread: "Stroller compatible with Clek Liing car seat [ab]"

We have a second hand silver cross wave and the clek liing. We were torn between this, the uppa baby or the bugaboo kangaroo. It comes with both seats and the bassinet at time of purchase. The bassinet is overnight sleep safe. The uppababy we disqualified because in double mode baby has to be on the bottom, and the bugaboo we didn’t like the fold, the bumper bar release or how difficult it was to transition between modes. The silver cross wave is not well known in CA, but checks all your boxes. I’d see if you can find a store nearby to test it out, our local baby store had them in stock and we found it as good if not better to push than the bugaboo. Edited to add: it is HEAVY though. I’m fairly strong so don’t mind the added weight of getting it in and out of the car, but if you struggle to lift 30lbs I would not recommend.

Thread: "Mesa V2 vs Nuna Pipa"

I wouldn't focus so much on how it works with your stroller, and more so on how it will fit in your vehicle. If you have a small vehicle, neither of those seats are going to work very well.

Thread: "How often does Uppababy Mesa V2 go on sale? [bc]"

It must be an Uppababy sale across retailers because I saw West Coast Kids is also running a $100-off sale on the Mesa V2 for $424.99+tax. My mom-friend told me the sales for gear (which both stroller and infant seat would fall under) tend to happen only a few times a year so this might be your best shot at a deal like this!

Thread: "Uppababy Mesa vs Chicco Keyfit 35 [CA]"

I can’t comment on the Chico. I ended up going with the mesa 2 years ago. But the reason it’s often out grown out (even with the same maxes) is just due the placement of the harnesses. It has the same height max but kids will grow out due to the 1 inch rule first (for the most part). It’s the same with convertible and combination seats later on. Often the max height and weight will never be hit due to the harness height. Hope that helps :)

Thread: "Uppababy Mesa vs Chicco Keyfit 35 [CA]"

The outgrown by 1” rule applies because of where the straps are positioned usually. For bucket seats, the straps have to be under baby’s shoulders, rounding like a backpack, while still having that 1” of space between their head and the top of the seat. The mesa is outgrown earlier generally because of that rule. If you have a lower or average percentile child, you might not have to worry. But some of us (like me) had giant 95 percentile babies. You just never know before they’re born.

Thread: "[ab] Uppababy aria vs Clek Liing?"

The Aria doesn’t have the fit issue the Mesa Max (now discontinued) had. I found an infant carseat so important for cold weather. I can’t imagine having to take my little baby in and out of a jacket in the winter.

Thread: "I’m Overwhelmed With Infant Car seats. FTM"

i adore my uppababy mesa car seat and really wished i would have bought the whole system, being able to just remove baby from car while still napping has been great, i also bought the maxi cosi convertible car seat but we haven't used it yet, i'm sad we only have about 6-7 more months with her uppababy car seat

Thread: "Chicco KeyFit 35 vs Uppababy Mesa V2 (and strollers)!"

I have read that the chest to chin thing improved in the Mesa V2 but still not great. Wondering if they fixed it in the v3. I ended up getting the vista stroller with a Nuna car seat. Uppababy strollers are great (also have the minu) but their car seats are not - that seems to be the general consensus.

Thread: "Horrifying Experience With Uppababy support and Mesa v2 car seat"

Others have given the correct answer about the crotch roll but I do want to mention that sadly the baby gear space is full of ambulance chasers. Lawyers literally read through forums to find issues with baby gear then place Facebook ads and try to gather a group to start a lawsuit. The fact that there’s a lawsuit should be completely meaningless other than to indicate that others may have had the same issue.

Thread: "Putting toddler in car seat on the plane"

Not sure why you're getting downvoted... We fly frequently and also haven't seen or used a carseat on a plane. After hearing people say they bring their carseat onboard, was hoping to see it in person but so far, we haven't. We also check in our carseat in a carseat bag, and check in the Uppababy Mesa with the Vista at the gate. Our toddler does fine on the plane seat with his various activities and snacks, but usually too excited to nap unless its dark/late. Do what works best for your family.

Thread: "Infant car seats - what did you like?"

Agree! We used the Uppa baby mesa (the one with real wool to avoid flame retardant chemicals). It was pretty heavy but we loved it and used it with our Uppa baby vista stroller. We now have the Nuna Rava convertible car seat and really like Nuna too (also has no flame retardant chemicals). Friends of ours used the Nuna Pipa and bought attachments to be able to use it with an Uppa Baby stroller.

Thread: "So torn on infant car seat - Uppababy or Chicco?"

We have an uppababy vista and a chicco KeyFit, and yeah, you do need the adapter, but it's really not a big deal. I'm using another stroller for day to day stuff now (the chicco presto, which I highly recommend), but when I was using the uppababy more often I just kept the adapter in my car with the stroller.

Thread: "Horrifying Experience With Uppababy support and Mesa v2 car seat"

I don’t see that it’s been mentioned, I also recommend reclining the Mesa base as much as allowed. It shows green in both the upright and more reclined positions, both are acceptable but a newborn does better with max recline. https://csftl.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Recline-foot-collage.jpg

Thread: "Uppababy Mesa V2 reviews "

Do you have the headrest adjusted appropriately? I was fighting with ours to start and then [this link](https://uppababy.com/child-fit-guide/#headrest-harness) finally made it click for me. Adjusted based on this and we didn’t have any issues. I also second removing the infant insert once your baby weighs enough.

Thread: "[ab] Uppababy aria vs Clek Liing?"

They have a point… 3lbs won’t make or break you carrying a seat around. Certainly not by 2 or 3 months.

Thread: "What car seat are you getting?"

We got ourselves an UppaBaby Mesa V2. We knew we wanted an UppaBaby stroller based on a lot of reviews from parents we knew around us, and ended up choosing the Minu V2 for a good compromise between the more expensive (and heavy) Vista and the less expensive and less heavy G-Luxe. :)

Thread: "Uppababy mesa - when did you stop using it?"

You can switch to a convertible seat at anytime. Usually a baby will grow out of an infant seat before the weight limit, so when head is one inch below the top or the height limit, on our seat I think it was 32 inches ? So check your manual or Google.

Thread: "Did the Uppababy Mesa V3 fix issues frequently talked about with the mesa max and mesa V2?"

Have you looked into the Aria? I’m surprised they even released a v3 tbh. I would avoid the entire Mesa line because of how many issues they’ve had with it. Maybe it’s fine. But I wouldn’t want my baby to be the one testing it out, personally. Just seems like they’d do better from a marketing perspective to give it a new name.

Thread: "Higher end infant car seats? [mb]"

We went with the mesa since I didn’t want to deal with adaptors when using it with the stroller. Its incredibly easy to install into the car and it’s fits well in my jeep without it being overly cramped in the back

Thread: "Best Infant Car Seat?"

I have a Nuna and mine came with a base. You had the option of purchasing an extra one if you wanted to leave it in another car.

Thread: "Uppababy Mesa vs Chicco Keyfit 35 [CA]"

Unfortunately the Keyfit 35 isn’t available on Amazon right now and is not on sale at Best Buy. Baby is due next month so not much time left ☹️ I’ve read about the Mesa being outgrown quickly but seeing as both seats have the 32” height maximum, I don’t understand how that works.

Thread: "Which car seat do you have and what do you like/dislike about it?"

Not as well known, but I’ll preach the gospel of baby jogger city turn! The swivel is one hand, rear facing up to 50 lbs, sooo comfy. My baby squeals with joy to himself in the car he loves it so much. He cried sooo much in his UB mesa. It isn’t cheap and there aren’t places to hold the straps. We’ve figured out to just loosen it before we get him out and it’s not an issue.

Thread: "Uppababy Mesa V2 vs Max [bc]"

I went with the MAX because it was on sale back when I bought it. Though I will say I regret buying it because my son has outgrown it already at 5.5 months. It wasn’t until I joined a car seat safety group when I found out that the mesa max and mesa v2 can be outgrown quickly. I bought it because I was set on the uppababy travel system and didn’t do research on other compatible car seats.

Thread: "Stuck overthinking car seats"

As a floonf owner - avoid it. We HATE ours. My husband refuses to buckle our daughter (2) if I’m there because it’s so difficult, it’s very difficult to instal, adjusting the straps is frustrating, moving the buckle is inconvenient… yes it seemed to be more safe and that’s why we went wihh th it. Beauty, safety, not flame retardant. But I will never recommend it to Anyone. Day to day it’s awful. We had an uppababy bucket seat and it was SO incredibly easy. Now I see my friends with their toddler seats too and I feel silly for having such a poorly designed chair.

Thread: "Higher end infant car seats? [mb]"

We had the Uppababy Mesa V2 as our bucket seat and then got the Evenflo Gold Revolve 360 for our convertible. The Uppababy is significantly sturdier, the fabric feels nicer, and the finishes are just better in general. They’re all safe but some are nicer than others.

Thread: "Mesa V2 vs Nuna Pipa"

We have the Mesa (and Cruz) and loved it. It fits seamlessly on the Cruz and the isofix was easy enough to snap in to our SUV. We didn’t look at the Pipa. No complaints on the Mesa. I’ve only now found it heavy with baby around 20 lbs. I do wish the shade came down a bit further but I found I transferred my kiddo to the stroller seat most of the time anyways as she just seemed more comfortable when mall walking/walking outside.

Thread: "Uppababy Vista Stroller with Mesa Carseat or Nuna Pipa?"

Have you looked into the aria? It clicks right in so you wouldn’t need the adapter. FWIW our baby is very comfortable in the seat. When we tried the Pipa + ring adapter in store it was quite difficult to remove the seat. From the comments here it sounds like perhaps it was just an issue with the demo we were working with.

Thread: "So torn on infant car seat - Uppababy or Chicco?"

I do not trust UB for car seats. I bought the Mesa Max with my first because it was the newest and best option. They touted the safety features. However, there were major chin to chest issues in the seat. Instead of refunding or recalling the seat they just sent an extra piece to put under the child. It still is a major issue that they're not recognizing or even acknowledging. I had planned to use the seat for more babies and that's why I spent the extra money. I don't feel comfortable doing that as I'm having twins and they will likely be even smaller and more susceptible to breathing issues. I am trashing my Mesa Max and buying Chiccos for the next babies.

Thread: "Horrifying Experience With Uppababy support and Mesa v2 car seat"

I honestly can’t believe I didn’t hear or see anything about this until after the fact. I do tons of research before buying things, but I think with the car seat I just watched comparison videos highlighting features and things like that.

Thread: "Infant Car Seat - Black Friday [ns]"

If you’re already considering a Clek for the second car seat, maybe look into the Clek Liing as your infant car seat, too? It really is super nice. It’s Canadian, compact and has been rated one of the best for safety. It also fits the baby longer than some of the others as it has a higher weight and height limit from what I recall. And it unzips to wash. I love ours and the baby seems to enjoy it as well! Edit: We got adapters for it and use it with an Uppababy vista stroller.

Thread: "How often does Uppababy Mesa V2 go on sale? [bc]"

The Vista V2 last went on sale in February, I don't think the car seat was on sale at that time. Just to give you an idea on how frequently sales happen. I missed the chance at buying on sale in February before my little guy came in May, so if you want it and it's on sale, get it! Also, everyone telling you not to get the mesa, that's not what you asked lol but definitely do some research into car seats and how they fit in your car and what features are important to you. There's lots of options, everyone will have an opinion on every one lol

Thread: "Car seat stuck between Uppababy Aria and Chicco KeyFit 35"

We have zero chin to chest issues with the aria. I think the chin to chest was mostly with mesa. We love the aria and can’t imagine carrying something heavier or not easily interchangeable with the stroller