Angelcare AC027

Thread: "The Owlet Dream Sock saved my daughters life last night "

Yeah fellow dad, we didn’t use Owlet but had an Angelcare which is a similar idea. It never went off…except the one night that it did. Little dude was fine when we roused him but I don’t want to know what would have happened if we didn’t.

Thread: "FDA takes action against Owlet Sock"

Yep. My dad's a pediatrician here in Canada and as he puts it, the government likes to keep as much money as possible, and that means reducing lawsuits and keeping kids from dying the easiest way possible. So if monitors like the Owlet sock or the Angelcare pad actually worked, if there was literally any research that showed it could reduce the risk of SIDS for medically complicated kids, every single parent with a child who is underweight, who is in a smoking household, who has difficulties breathing, has developmental or physical disabilities, etc. would get one. But there's no proof. In fact, it actually seems that it can cause MORE issues because of false alarms that go off, causing parents to miss out on sleep, to be super anxious because they think their baby was constantly almost dead if they hadn't run in and woken them up, and actually can cause the government more money through excess, unnecessary hospital visits because "my baby almost died three times in his sleep last week" when really it just wasn't calibrated correctly, it just malfunctioned, etc. Additionally, there is concern that this gives parents a false sense of security--as long as the baby has its Owlet on, it's OK if they have blankets in the crib/lots of stuffies/goes to sleep on their front/sleeps in the bed with me in a non-ideal bed situation because if something goes wrong, I'll be alerted in time. There's a lot of parents who find these products helpful for anxiety, but in reality there's not any research that they actually do anything and a lot of concern among medical professionals that they may actually make some things worse. So if you have one and it works for you, great, but don't stop using safe sleep practices. Don't assume that you don't have to watch the baby asleep in the carseat because you slipped the owlet on his foot. Just keep doing what you're supposed to do, and the owlet can be a great placebo.

Thread: "The Owlet Dream Sock saved my daughters life last night "

First night in her own crib out of our room on kiddo one, we had misaligned the sensor or something and the alarm went off. I can’t actually remember getting from bed to her cot, but suddenly there I was! All good in the end.

Thread: "Do any of you use any breathing monitors?"

Mom lurker. I was also relatively nervous. I ended up with a 2nd hand angelcare breathing monitor which was a little older. I liked it and never really got false alarms fromnit. Unfortunately, I think it's common for breathing monitors to false alarm and freak you out more than they help. The exception being with premie babies or babies with underdeveloped lungs From our research which I have no links or references for: - keep the baby a little cooler. Too warm is associated with a statistically higher likelihood - safe sleeping means a sleep sack or very secure swaddle with absolutely nothing else in the crib lying on their back In general, the scariest thing for me was falling asleep breastfeeding as it happened several times. I woke up once because of my dog and the baby's face was fully in my chest. I got scared and checked for breathing and she kinda had a sudden gasp. Idk if that's because she wasn't getting any air or if it's because I startled her but it scared me. I tried to put her down and was relatively shaken up about it but she woke up and wanted to contact nap again. At that point, I woke up my husband and handed her over. Make sure your partner is aware of this danger. The person holding the baby cannot under any circumstances be asleep safely. Better safe than sorry. Don't argue about whose turn it is to take the baby. It's the parent who's not exhausted to the point of being unsafe's job. No discussion. Work as a team to ensure at least one of you is well rested at all times. One goes to bed early, the other sleeps in or something. Take the baby so your partner can nap during the day and vice-versa.

Thread: "Best baby monitor?"

AngelCare! Hasn't failed us yet. Best purchase we've made to date.

Thread: "Anything you regret buying, or not buying for your first? [on]"

I want to add things that I loved to counter the things I hated. Books, books, books. High contrast books, classic books, she loves being read to. Recommend: It Had To Be You, I Love You Through and Through (my 14 month old’s current favourite), My Mom is Magical (and I guess My Dad Is Amazing), 80s Baby/90s Baby are both super fun Angelcare Bath Baby Support Ring Sling, I got an Atma sling from Quebec which is a more rigid Linen I absolutely love love love it, mom prefers her Tula sling that’s softer but still supportive and she has a Tula carrier as well we both use.

Thread: "Are movement/breathing monitors safe and worth it or are video monitors good enough?"

In my personal experience, the Angelcare was way more hassle than it was worth. My daughter stopped breathing shortly after she was born (and several more times in the NICU) so I was super paranoid about her breathing. But the Angelcare, even installed perfectly (with their fancy $20 piece of wood) triggered so many false alarms. I went flying into her room to find her tucked off in a corner of her crib, breathing safely and somehow sleeping through the alarm, thankfully. I eventually just yanked the breathing sensor and use it as a regular monitor. More recently I got a Neebo, which is a wearable on the wrist that measures stuff like heart rate and osat. It was a Kickstarter back when she was born and finally shipped out last year, almost 2 years later. It's still in beta (mine broke and I'm supposed to be getting a new one) but most parents that have one that works seem to really like it. I have a friend with an Owlet who said his kid was constantly kicking it off. I'm guessing they are mostly just taking advantage of parents' fears and don't really capture much useful info unless your kid has a legit health issue, like many of the Neebo beta users. Just my two cents!

Thread: "The Owlet Dream Sock saved my daughters life last night "

Respectfully disagree. I had an angelcare monitor, which was a panel under the mattress that monitored breathing. Without it I would have nightmares of waking up to a child that had stopped breathing in the night, with it I slept much better knowing an alarm would beep. The only time it did go off was when I would lift him and forget to flick it off. It had a single warning beep if no breathing was detected for 15 seconds then a consistent beeping if still no breathing 5 seconds after the first. I am aware that the chance of my child passing in a safe sleeping environment was minimal anyway. It was to ensure I was rested and could sleep without feeling like I had to go and check he was breathing whenever I had an intrusive thought. Also - just because these devices weren't around years ago doesn't make them redundant now. Those comparisons are silly. Oh no how did we communicate our thoughts without social media. Oh no how did we get around without GPS. If a mother chooses to buy this to help with their anxiety, or if it saves a child's life then it's worth it? I don't really see any negatives.

Thread: "Best baby monitor?"

Get a FOSCAM for video monitoring - It is much better quality than any of the baby monitors and you can read the stream from any device. Then second get the Angelcare (not the video one) with the movement pad, which is important in early days for SIDS.

Thread: "Do any of you use any breathing monitors?"

Cool room and moving air - babies can't move enough volume to get rid of CO2 in a stuffy room. You give excellent advice about the rest of this. The biggest risk is complacency from fatigue.

Thread: "Baby monitors seem like a scam with how atrociously poor quality they are"

Don’t use a wifi one. We use an Angelcare.

Thread: "Not everyone can fork out 300 for a Owlet sock "

Fully agree! I have a reflux baby, so I was/am still very worried about possible choking in his own vomit, certainly because he sleeps on his stomach now (does that himself). I really need to trust that things will be okay, if I would have an owlet or nannit or angelcare, I would check it constantly. Raising children is letting go of your anxiety and worry, in every phase until they’re adults. The baby industry is focusing more and more on fear and ftp that do not have the experience to relativize.

Thread: "Baby monitors seem like a scam with how atrociously poor quality they are"

You should clarify WHY, because a lot of folks don’t know. WiFi monitors can be hacked from anywhere in the world, meaning strangers can theoretically see and talk to your baby. It’s not super common, but it is possible.

Thread: "Newborn/infant breathing monitor that doesn’t require great internet? (Preferably not a sock)"

Our NICU used one of those pads under the mattress for the feeder/growers who didn't need a pulse ox. It wasn't connected to wifi at all, just blared an alarm if it didn't detect any movements for a certain amount of time. I didn't end up getting any breathing monitors but that's probably what I would have gone with.

Thread: "Anyone have a baby monitor they love?"

Internet connected devices just strike me as too much hassle. Wi-Fi drops, login expires, they get hacked etc etc We just have an angelcare video monitor, works fine.

Thread: "Do any of you use any breathing monitors?"

We had an Angelcare. Lots of false alarms when we forgot to switch it off while taking the baby out of its crib but we had a real one when baby was choking on the swaddle blanket that had come undone. So yeah, I recommend.

Thread: "Staying up to monitor baby's breathing?"

I was watching the first night in hospital but when we got home we were both too tired and all of us passed out. He slept in a cot at my side of the bed. We had a baby monitor that had a movement pad underneath it that detected when he moved and beeped or if he hadn't moved in 30 sec and screamed. It beeped constantly to show he was breathing and for the first month this was really good and then we weaned ourselves off it to a normal baby monitor. It meant I wasn't standing over him constantly with a mirror checking. We only used this baby monitor when we were out of the room.

Thread: "Does anyone know which Owlet Dream sock is the best to get?"

We got an under mattress sensor with our monitor that triggered on no breathing/movement. I threw it in the garbage after multiple heart attacks.

Thread: "The Owlet Dream Sock saved my daughters life last night "

Yeah, mine are now 7 and 2, stories like OP’s and other commenters have me wondering how we ever made it through infancy without the Owlet, Angelcare or the Newton mattress. 😅😬 I guess safe sleeping practices go a long way on their own.

Thread: "Which Baby Monitor??!!"

If it's for a newborn, I recommend the angel care monitor as it has a breathing sensor mat that goes under the mattress so baby can't feel or get to it. It really helped my anxiety when our LO was a newborn up until 12m. It can give off some false alarms, but rarely and honestly I'd rather have a false alarm than to never know. Now we use this: Little elf Indoor Security Camera,1080P Pet Cameras with Phone App for Dog/Elder WiFi Baby Monitor with Motion Detection & Tracking, 2-Way Audio, Wireless Home Camera with Night Vision https://a.co/d/6MJIrd0 We didn't get the monitor, just the camera and it's amazing and such great value. It's not shared over WiFi so only authorized devices can see what's happening (from anywhere!) The only reason we don't use the angel care anymore is because we dropped it and broke the screen and didn't want to spend $$$ replacing it.