Bugaboo Butterfly

Thread: "Confused by strollers, what do you recommend?"

There’s definitely an overwhelming amount of options… You can definitely do a combo one that’s the car seat and stroller like the Doona. I think this is best for people who live in big cities or travel a lot. I personally don’t think they’re worth it.. you gotta buy a new car seat and stroller when they get bigger. You could get a bigger, travel system which is a good deal. Something like an UPPABaby vista or a mockingbird for a more budget friendly option with a car seat adapter is very nice. These also usually have options for a bassinet or an infant insert so you don’t always have to use the car seat! They’re very nice strollers with lots of storage, high weight limits, lots of accessories and can really last you a long time. The downside is they are pricey and often very heavy/take up a lot of trunk space! Another option is a travel stroller. Many people use these for every day!! There’s many options these days.. some top ones are the Zoe line, Buggaboo Butterfly, UPPAbaby Minu.. there’s many more. These sometimes can be used with a car seat, are often under 20 pounds, fold compactly, are great for toddlers, great for travel, more budget friendly! Downsides are often not best for infants unless it’s one with a car seat adapter, have less storage and not as many bells and whistles. So.. I chose 2. I went with the Mockingbird which is so nice and we love it. It’s great for babies with all the attachments. Worked with our Chico Key fit car seat and is a nice push! Adjustable handle bar was nice since my husband is a lot taller than me. But it’s really heavy for my small frame and took up my whole SUV trunk. So I also got the Zoe Tour. It’s also amazing!! It’s 13 pounds, folds flat, takes up a fraction of my trunk, great for travel and my toddler loves the snack tray and being able to sit fully upright. I keep that one in the trunk and the Mockingbird in the garage for walks. Lastly, check out The Stroller Mom on Instagram or YouTube! She does full videos comparing strollers and doing in-depth reviews of the most popular brands! That’s how I picked my two!! Good luck!

Thread: "Please share any recommendations for a travel stroller ? "

silver cross makes the jet/jet 3, which do fit in overhead bins and are aimed at travel like the yoyo or butterfly. but unlike nuna, they don’t really market the “non-toxic/greenguard” angle, fabrics are standard polyester/foam that meet safety regs, not the eco-focused stuff. if materials are a priority, nuna’s usually the pick, silver cross leans more on portability/build. there’s not a lot you need to keep in mind yourself tbh, [this post swears by](https://www.reddit.com/user/BarberUnited7894/comments/1pf2iva/midtier_vs_premium_stroller_wagons/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) baby trend and i’ve found it to be helpful. feel free to just use it as a checklist as well

Thread: "Is a pram necessary?"

Only problem with the doona is it’s a car seat if it’s the same product I’m thinking of? so baby can only be in it for 30 minutes for the first month, and 2 hours max after that. I have the bugaboo fox 5 and was loving the newborn phase where they will sleep in the bassinet for 2/3 hours at a time in a pub / restaurant! Much better for their spine / wind pipe positioning. Also approved for overnight sleep so you can use it as a travel cot. I live in a rural area so having something all terrain was important too and I just bought the car seat adaptors for the bugaboo chassis.

Thread: "Is a pram necessary?"

By my understanding, Americans drive far more than we do. Walking is so much more accessible in the UK, therefore we 'all' have prams. As someone else has said, the Doona is a car seat, so baby can't be in it for more than 30 mins. A full travel system that grows with baby is far better as baby can be in it for longer. Just going out for a day shopping or a coffee and having the bassinet for baby to sleep in is a lifesaver. Going out for a walk to get them to sleep and get some fresh air yourself is so nice; there are some lovely parks in London you can go out in. I have the bugaboo fox 2, second hand from a colleague, and we use it almost every day. It has been brilliant, though we transitioned from the bassinet to the seat a couple of months early because baby ha strong head control and really wanted to see!

Thread: "Is a pram necessary?"

As you’re in London, I’d have a look at something like the Babyzen yoyo or the bugaboo butterfly. I know you can get a newborn kit for the yoyo. I hired a yoyo from Baboodle for a recent holiday and it was great for city use and travel, but it would be useless for country walks (I live in the Surrey countryside). Maybe have a look at hiring something to see if you like it before buying one?

Thread: "Are bugaboo strollers worth the hype? [BC]"

I would check out the [bumbleride era](https://canada.bumbleride.com/products/era-reversible-stroller-new?variant=45344132923584). High quality and the suspension is top notch. No need for a separate bassinet, it lays flat enough for an infant and converts into a bassinet itself. I believe the bugaboo fox is not compatible with a lot of car seats either which idk if that’s something you’re looking for. The era can be used with car seats you just have to purchase separate adapters, which I like because I can choose what car seat I want and I’m not forced to get that same branded one. I have the indie which is just the 3 wheel jogger version but it’s the smoothest pushing stroller. You don’t realize how many bumps you go over even on concrete until you have a crappy plastic wheeled stroller.

Thread: "What do I get with luxury/expensive strollers (uppababy, Nuna) over affordable ones (Chicco, Graco)"

Do you get snow? I have a Bugaboo fox and love it. My 97th percentile 4 year old still fits comfortably.

Thread: "What do I get with luxury/expensive strollers (uppababy, Nuna) over affordable ones (Chicco, Graco)"

adding to this, we have the bugaboo fox 5 and it is a dream! saying this most all terrain strollers like the bugaboo and the vista2 are on the bigger/bulkier side but ours ie is one hand fold and so easy for me to deal with alone,theres smaller/lighter versions for both brands and i heard great things about the nuna too!

Thread: "Are double strollers worth it? What do you recommend?"

I’d probably get the ride along board attachment for the minu instead of a new double stroller. I have a vista that I got for my first and I loved it for just one kid but getting it in and out with two kids (5 months and almost 3) is a bit unwieldy unless my husband is around to help. It’s much easier to put my toddler in the bugaboo butterfly and wear the baby. I regularly wore my toddler until he was a little bit over 2 and expect to do the same with new baby. If you do decide to go for a new stroller try to get one with a one handed fold!

Thread: "My experience with the Bugaboo Butterfly pram on Jetstar"

Just want to chip in that even though OP had a positive experience, we’ve flown quite a bit with our 3yo and it varies WILDLY depending on the staff. None of them with any of the airlines we used were consistent with what was allowed or the rules and offerings at each airport. So go armed with your understanding of their policies and have them open as tabs on your browser so you can show the staff.

Thread: "What stroller do you have for everyday use and do you like it?"

You’re going to hear a wide range of recommendations, but you really need to specify if you’re going to be taking walks on sidewalks, or dirt, or if you live in a city, or have a small trunk. Also did you pick a car seat yet, because then you have to consider compatibility. Please specify and then people can give you advice tailored to your specific needs. For example, I live in a city so I love my bugaboo bee and bugaboo butterfly. I think the vista is crazy huge. But of course it’s a better stroller in other ways. Also, consider price range but I’d way rather have a used high end stroller than a new low end one.

Thread: "Please just tell me what stroller to buy"

We got the uppababy vista and a Nuna full size stroller as hand me downs. Both were WAY too heavy and bulky to take anywhere. They basically fill the whole trunk of my volvo xc40. I just got the Bugaboo Butterfly and I have a Nuna Pipa infant car seat. It can be put in the Bugaboo with adaptors without taking the regular seat out. We never used the bassinet attachment for the Vista, so for me it was a null extra. If you plan to walk daily in your neighborhood from birth and you have a garage that’s ground level, you could go for a stroller with bassinet, but if you plan to use the stroller for outings and travel, I would skip. Get the Bugaboo Butterfly 2 or the Uppababy Minu 3. Both just came out and you can put in overhead compartment. Pair either with a Nuna Pipa Infant carseat and then size up to a Nuna or Clek convertible car seat after 1-year old. Don’t get the uppababy carseat even if u get the Minu stroller.

Thread: "Thoughts on Graco Modes Travel System vs. UppaBaby Vista/Cruz?"

I live in Toronto and use the Cruz. It really is a great stroller- like Mercedes Benz level suspension. I’m not sure about the Graco but we have a graco swing and high chair and they are both really nice and well made but maybe have a bit dated looking designs even though they are new. I have no idea about their strollers. I am eyeing their 4 ever car seat. I will say that sometimes I wish I had gotten a high quality travel stroller. I really like the look of the new Bugaboo Butterfly but I know a lot of people who have used the more affordable Uppababy Minu with the mesa. I think we probably could have gotten by with a stroller like that for most months of the year. That said, I don’t really take it loutside in the snow and rain because I’m afraid of damaging my Uppababy… kind of ironic since I bought it to do exactly that! I would also add that uppababy’s customer service is unmatched! We had an issue with the car seat and I emailed them asking how to fix it (the bar was stuck) and they sent me a brand new upgraded one with the merino wool fabric. All they asked me to do is send a video and they sent a new one overnight rush. I was sooo impressed!

Thread: "Prams - did you regret getting a larger, heavy pram for your first baby?"

I know a lot of people love them, but I got a bugaboo fox and hated it. Found it so cumbersome and heavy. I bought the bugaboo second hand and ended up selling it. I remember a friend having a Milly and Coup (I think) pram that was lightweight and folded, which was suitable for newborns (it wasn’t a bassinet), and I wished I’d bought that one! This was four years ago.

Thread: "Lightweight stroller options"

Depending on your needs - but I would put the Yoyo towards the bottom. The basket is kinda small and hard to access, and it is not a simple fold. People love the butterfly, and they just came out with a new model with some upgrades. That would be my pick!

Thread: "Bugaboo Butterfly"

It’s currently on sale at target + the extra 20% off trade in deal (poke around, you don’t actually need to trade anything in, just need to scan the barcode that’s floating around the interwebs), which gets it down to $320. Still a little pricey, but we get a lot more use out of our travel stroller than just travel. Quick errands, places with tight quarters where our daily monster stroller (Nuna mixx) would be too cumbersome, times when we need more space in the trunk, etc. We actually haven’t traveled with it yet! First trip is coming up later this month…

Thread: "Bugaboo Fox vs Uppababy Vista? "

I think John Lewis often stocks both so booking a baby appointment there to try them out could help you!

Thread: "Any opinions/feedback on this bugaboo range we intend to buy?"

We have the Bugaboo Fox 5. I can’t really fault it, but I will say that my baby wasn’t overly fussed on the bassinet for some reason. Babies are weird! Otherwise it’s a great pram. I personally wouldn’t use a portacot full time. The mattresses tend to be on the thinner side, and most aren’t designed for heavy, everyday use. However, if you’re set on a portacot and don’t plan on using it for frequent overseas travel, I would suggest looking at something slightly bigger, like the Jengo Oasis. My son sleeps in one of these at his grandparents house, and does super well in it. It’s a bit bigger than a standard portacot and has a slightly thicker mattress. Alternatively, if want something that can easily be moved around, you could also look at compact cots that have wheels.

Thread: "Stroller recommendations"

Bugaboo Kangaroo is far superior to the Uppababy. We have a Silver Cross Wave but if I were to go back and do it all over again I’d get a Bugaboo all the way. We do have the Bugaboo Butterfly as our travel stroller and use that way more (fits in overhead bin on airplane!)

Thread: "Did you have a bassinet attachment for your stroller?"

They’re made very well. The frames are super sturdy and also easy to use and fold up. The cloth materials are super nice. They push really easily too. I have the donkey which is the side by side double and I can push and steer it with one hand when it’s loaded up with my twins or 1 twin & their toddler brother. If you’re wanting something from birth, the butterfly won’t be great since that one’s more for older kids though.

Thread: "Travel Stroller - Analysis Paralysis"

Just get a bugaboo butterfly. It’s great

Thread: "Travel Stroller Help!"

Butterfly has been great for us! We have traveled with it across the US, in Europe, and in Southeast Asia and it holds up everywhere we go. It fits in the overhead and one time we even put it under the seat in front of us on a US domestic Jet Blue flight because the overhead bins were those tiny ones a 1-2 jumper plane (although I will say the more you travel, the less you want your stroller with you in the cabin). We’ve used it on cobblestone streets in Europe and literally dragged it on beaches in California. It’s really narrow so navigates tight spaces well. We can also carry it - even now with our two yr old in it - when there are just a few stairs to navigate. It does occasionally get stuck on a lip, so you need to apply pressure on the handle as you are driving it (I say this bc our normal strolled is the Vista, and you can basically run that thing over a snowbank with a single finger it drives so easily). Also, recline has been fine for us. We traveled at 4 mos with my daughter and she napped in it fully reclined even though it wasn’t flat. Now that she’s two, recline is more than enough. She mostly sleeps in it sitting fully upright as we are walking around. Easy to close and open, but you have to get used to pushing the button and flicking the wrist to open. Also, tons of space underneath. We regularly put the pack n play and or a very large duffle bag underneath when we travel.

Thread: "Strollers?"

We have so many strollers lol. Thule spring: affordable, adapter for most car seats, great ride. Good for travel too! Could be a great choice if you only want one. Bob jogger: amazing, rides like a champ, the only downside is that it’s huge and refilling the tires is annoying. Bugaboo butterfly: I cashed in gift cards for this and love it. It’s amazing for travel. Definitely not a necessity, but so nice. Uppababy vista: it’s so popular for a reason. This thing is a workhorse, fits in the car fairly well when you break it down, and is so adaptable. It’s expensive but soooo worth it.

Thread: "Affordable & easy travel stroller"

Honestly check Facebook marketplace. We got the Bugaboo travel stroller for like 100 dollars.

Thread: "Are bugaboo strollers worth the hype? [BC]"

We have fox5 and it’s one of the best purchases ever. The ride is super smooth, easy to manipulate, the wheels are big and work on any terrain. I wouldn’t buy another stroller. And it’s a beautiful stroller! Vista look ugly btw, just my opinion.

Thread: "Are bugaboo prams worth the hype?"

I have a bugaboo fox and absolutely love it for walking. I’ve pushed a few others and none come close to how smooth the fix is. Agree about getting a smaller one for the car though - we has our first in London so didn’t go in the car often, but now e are back in NZ with our second we’ve bought a smaller travel pram for that purpose

Thread: "Prams - did you regret getting a larger, heavy pram for your first baby?"

I have a redsbaby nuvo but I have twins and so I needed a double pram from the get go. The nuvo is great and I really like it but if I was just having a singleton I would genuinely go for like a travel pram. The redsbaby skip 3 looks really good because it has an actual bassinet attachment as well as the regular seat. I've also heard good things about the bugaboo butterfly and dragonfly. If you're planning on a second baby in close succession to your first you might want a pram that can be a double though which might rule out a lot of the more compact prams.

Thread: "Are “luxury” strollers actually worth it?"

uppababy is everywhere in my city, and nuna less so. I bought a bugaboo after trying out both. Neither nuna nor uppababy feel as luxe as bugaboo to me. So if you’re asking if bugaboo is worth it, then absolutely.I don’t think so for the other two.

Thread: "Travel stroller recommendations"

We have the bugaboo butterfly and love it. It’s not a full full recline tho, but toddler still naps in it.

Thread: "Travel Stroller - Analysis Paralysis"

I would look for the Babyzen yoyo, Joolz Aer+ or the Bugaboo Butterfly on marketplace. You’re probably not going to get everything you’re wanting in a travel stroller, so you’ll have to compromise on something. Very few models will fit overhead on an airplane but the yo-yo and Aer+ definitely do if that’s important enough for you. Finding a big basket or a good recline will be the hardest.

Thread: "Prams - did you regret getting a larger, heavy pram for your first baby?"

Completely agree. One kid so far, we got the uppa vista v2 and intend to use it when we might have another. I drive a golf and it takes up the whole boot. We only use the uppa for park walks/rougher terrain or big days out like at the zoo or for picnics now. For everything else, we use the bugaboo butterfly and I love it so much. The uppa was amazing for early days when you needed everything but the kitchen sink to get out of the house. Now we only need to bring a nappy and wipes, maybe a spare change of clothes we don’t need as much basket room, and it takes up so little space in the car, also so much easier to put in the boot.

Thread: "Parents who don't bring their full-size stroller to the airport: why?"

We have the GB Pockit+ All-City. I personally don’t recommend it (to rickety for the price, seat is too reclined and forces toddler to slouch). If I were to do it again I’d go for the Babyzen Yo-yo of the Bugaboo Butterfly.

Thread: "Choosing the best stroller, what do you wish you'd known earlier?"

We LOVE our bugaboo strollers (Fox 5 and butterfly). We’ve used others and remark on the difference every single time.

Thread: "Bugaboo Fox vs Uppababy Vista? "

Absolutely adore our fox I would recommend it wholeheartedly. The wheels will deal with any type of terrain we've used it in town, on cobbles, even on muddy walks, it's super easy to push one handed if necessary, the handle is adjustable for reference I'm 5ft and my husband is 6ft4 and it's comfortable for us both to use, it's easy to switch between world and parent facing, the basket underneath is roomy. Ours is 3.5 years old and it's still in brilliant condition there's no sign of wear and tear, and I totally recommend the breezy canopy for summer. Ours came with the rain cover that folds into itself and that has been fantastic as well

Thread: "Brooklyn Stroller Recommendation- Doona and Uppababy Vista?"

I live in Carroll Gardens and the bumpy sidewalks are a dream with the Vista. Many restaurants can accommodate the Vista with a heads up. My son is 4 months and just graduated from the Vista bassinet to the toddler seat, but any time we need to do a car with our stroller we just bring our car seat (Uppababy Aria) which clips onto the stroller, and can be installed baseless easily in the car. I haven’t done the subway yet with my stroller (or my baby for that matter) but with no elevator on the F that would be tricky with any stroller. We got the Bugaboo butterfly for when he’s a little bigger if we want something smaller.

Thread: "Stroller recommendations for city living?"

I'm in Hamilton and get around mostly on foot too. We have the Bugaboo Fox 2. It's done really well with our shitty sidewalks in summer and the snow in winter. I would recommend looking at all-terrain style strollers if you're going to be on foot a lot. They tend to be larger, but they'll handle snow better and be a smoother ride. They also usually have some decent capacity if you're running errands and need to carry a few things home. The Stroller Workshop is a channel on YouTube that you should check out as well. They review all kinds of strollers and are based in Norway, so they know what snow is.

Thread: "Uppababy vista v3 - thoughts please"

I was locked in to get a Bugaboo but luckily my friends appeared at baby bunting store and made me change my mind to the Uppababy v3! It's alot lighter weight compared to the Bugaboo fox 5 tbh. When you carry the pram frame there's like a better shape (U shape) so you can carry more of its weight being in the U, whereas the fox 5 felt alot heavier due to limited carry access if it makes sense? I think from memory there was a bar restricting me from carrying the frame of the fox No regrets!!! I'm yet to open up my packaging haha

Thread: "Overwhelmed by strollers!!! Stroller questions for a city-living FTM"

Do you run *actual errands* with the stroller? Like, do you walk to the grocery store (+ carry all of your groceries home) or do you usually drive? If you are used to walking for errands, then you want the Uppababy Vista. The basket in the bottom can hold 2-3 very full bags of groceries. We live urban (Boston) and were car-free for a decade. Our stroller is our mini-van. We easily walk 5 miles in a day or more just living our lives. I kid you not, we have probably put 1000 miles on that stroller in 4 years. The Vista is built like a TANK, though, so if you're a casual stroller user (pretty much everyone that I know that lives in the suburbs), then it's probably overkill. For travel, we really love the Babyzen Yoyo. We also really liked the Bugaboo Butterfly, but it is really awkward to carry both the Butterfly and the baby for me. We got the Yoyo knowing that we would be going to London, and taking the Underground -- so I would be carrying the folded stroller + baby + backpack of stuff all alone to take escalators / stairs at certain stops. Other advice: We also were in a walk-up (5th floor) until our daughter was 2 y/o. I almost never used the stroller in the first 6 mo+...the carrier was considerably easier. If you're like us, then you won't really need any newborn stroller attachments anyway. Once they have head control at 6mo+, then you can just use seats designed for bigger kids.

Thread: "Prams - did you regret getting a larger, heavy pram for your first baby?"

Hilariously, I had the Milly + Coup and although yes it was lightweight, I found it felt cheap and rickety and not very nice to push around. My baby also lacked support in the seat and would slump sideways (this is a common problem with the M + C). I sold it and found a Bugaboo Fox 3 secondhand which I just love. Heavier yes, but much smoother ride and more comfortable for my baby.

Thread: "Bugaboo Butterfly 2 vs. Uppababy Minu V3"

If you have access to a Nordstrom I’d highly recommend trying them in person. They’re both great strollers but something might just speak to you for one over the other. My husband just liked how the handlebar on the Bugaboo felt so that was the tiebreaker! But there might be something different for you.

Thread: "Lightweight stroller options"

Bugaboo butterfly! Has a huge basket compared to the others, one handed fold, and feels so sturdy to push. I also had a yoyo for years and HATED it. It felt cheap, like it would blow over, the fold sucks, and the basket is tiny.

Thread: "Overwhelmed with types of strollers [on]"

You sounded just like me before I bought my stroller!! Like I spent HOURS trying to decide watching YouTube and TikTok’s lol. My heart was set on a Bugaboo Donkey or Fox, went to the store, pushed it around and tried it out.. annnnnd I HATED it. I ended up going with the UPPAbaby Vista V3 with the Mesa V2 car seat. It was important to me to be able to put the car seat on the stroller versus having to take her in and out of a car seat that just stays in the car. The last thing I’d want is to wake my sleeping baby and since I’m due in March when it’s still cold, I liked the idea of being able to bundle her up in the house and have the car seat be warm rather than sticking her in a freezing cold car. I really liked the way it felt pushing it around, I loved how easy it was to click the car seat and bassinet we got in and out, the fold is so easy and it’s not crazy big. I also liked that it can turn into a double stroller if/when we have another baby (I was always told to love your stroller as a single stroller and if it turns into a double that’s just a bonus!). I would go with whatever YOU liked. I know the Nuna Mix is really popular and that’s for good reason! I also really liked the way it felt pushing it around, but ultimately decided to go with the Uppababy solely just on personal preference. No matter how much research you do you’ll always find something negative about the one you like so try not to focus too much on the negative reviews of things! :)

Thread: "What collapsible travel stroller do you recommend?"

Bugaboo Butterfly has worked great for us for 2 years now

Thread: "Overwhelmed with types of strollers [on]"

I'm the opposite of you, we got the Bugaboo Fox and my friend got the Vista V3. I loved my stroller, it went through snow and sand with no issues and the suspension was amazing on gravel. I used the basinette instead of buying the car seat adapters- occasionally it would be annoying, but we would go on long walks and keep LO sleeping in the basinette stroller for 2-3 hours safely. We still used an infant bucket car seat (clek Liing) but didn't attach it to the stroller.

Thread: "Travel Stroller recommendation"

All our WestJet and Air Canada flights in the last 2 years unfortunately no longer allow strollers in the overhead bins. All are required to be gate checked regardless of size. That being said, I love our Bugaboo Butterfly and highly recommend.

Thread: "Should we buy bugaboo butterfly now?"

I think bugaboo is increasing their price soon so I just purchased it in case this was affected

Thread: "Should we buy bugaboo butterfly now?"

we waited for over a year and finally pulled the trigger on it with the sale and 20% stack. it’s a fantastic stroller to keep in the car because it has such a small footprint and is very well-made. also you can get car seat adapters for it if you have an infant seat, so you may get more use out of it than you think. the criticisms about being a rough ride on uneven terrain are 100% warranted though because of the wheel size, but if you’re planning on using it in stores and sidewalks, it’s a great buy at the price you’d get it for.

Thread: "Bugaboo Butterfly"

Just an FYI, saw a couple struggle to get a bugaboo butterfly to fit in the overhead on a flight to Florence a few weeks ago. Flight attendants asked if it was a Yoyo, bc they always fit. The couple had to go back and gate check the pram.

Thread: "My experience with the Bugaboo Butterfly pram on Jetstar"

We also love our Butterfly. Thank you for sharing your experience with travelling on Jetstar with it!

Thread: "Are bugaboo strollers worth the hype? [BC]"

I have the fox5 and its truly so worth it for my family. The wheels are bigger than the vista and handles grass trails outdoors pretty well plus ontario winters. The seat is also bigger which has been good for my 99% 14 month old he has room to be comfortable. Yes its big yes it takes up my entire trunk but its worth it. Single handed push is like butter, easy one handed fold. No regrets